Was 3D and gaming a horrendous failure?

by Ben Salter Featured 37 Comments 40 Votes 3245 Views 13/07/2012 Back to Articles

Does anyone in gaming really care about the whole 3D fad? It’s never done much for me; not in movies, nor in video games.

Even during the Avatar monomania of ’09, 3D was never going to surmount to anything but a passing novelty and an excuse to ramp up already overpriced ticket prices. Sure it looked cool, but it wasn’t the revolutionary progress some fanboys were making it out to be.

But I understand its appeal in movies. Video games, however, I’m not so sure.

I’ve never played a game in 3D that’s made me stand up and take notice. I nearly always play 3DS games in 2D nowadays, to conceive battery life, and because 3D really doesn’t make all that much of a difference.

Nintendo is on the same page. ”I don't think we'll present [3D graphics] as one of the key features of our consoles but will probably stick with 3D as one of the minor elements,” said Nintendo president Satoru Iwata.

And he’s right. I’m relieved to hear a man with such power inside the upper echelon of Nintendo utter those words. 3D hasn’t been the revelation it was marketed as. There’s no need to diminish the impact of the 3DS by pretending it’s the key point of difference for the next four years.

It isn’t. 3D will continue to be an interesting novelty, but it isn’t a reason to buy or even play a 3DS. There isn’t one game worth the $70 price of admission to experience a new generation of visual pleasure.

It’s all just a resounding sense of meh.

Likewise, Sony seems to be off the idea. The execs assure us they aren’t, but E3 this year was all about connecting the Vita and PS3. Not 3D. Their own TV was a failure, at least in Australia where it was doomed with a laughably limited release, and only a minority of the population has bothered to upgrade to a 3D TV.

There’s the main problem; 3D televisions haven’t flourished as they might have, and games aren’t a viable reason to upgrade. 3D video games on home consoles are reliant on movies being the drawcard. A majority of tech-savvy users are unlikely to upgrade for games alone, and movies clearly haven’t done enough to entice the masses.

The whole situation isn‘t helped by the gameplay itself. No game markets itself as a ‘3D only‘ adventure, because it’s a novelty, nothing less, nothing more. At least the 3DS can keep its audience in awe for a few hours with its glasses-free party trick.

The poor PS3 is hassled by the need to wear bulky glasses, and then there’s a negligible difference -- if any to the gameplay.

We haven’t seen any benefits to 3D gaming. That’s the problem. There’s no reason to upgrade to a 3D television, or even waste an extra 25 percent of 3DS battery. We’re better off just playing games in 2D. That’s why 3D gaming is nothing but a minor novelty, and why it’s arguably a horrendous failure compared to what the big-wigs had in mind.

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IMO, yes due to the fact that 99% of the population could actually live without 3D.
For fruit sakes, I have 3D off at all times on my 3DS and when I play games on 3D (stereoscopic) smart phones I don't bother enabling 3D.

I say 3D should stay on big screen movies.
Using 3D for full-screen multiplayer is a pretty darn awesome advancement. Too bad all multiplayer is online nowadays.
Even 3D in movies is pretty pointless. You can watch 90% of the Amazing Spider-Man 3D without glasses... so you are paying $4 for maybe 15 minutes of 3D. Add them up over time and it is a complete and pointless rip-off.

90 / 15 = 6
6 x 4 = 24

So you are paying $24+ for 90 minutes of 3D. Ridiculous.

At least with console gaming, the 3D only works if you have a 3D tv... so you technically aren't paying any extra for it unless you went out of your way for a 3D tv, which most people wouldn't do, 3D wouldn't decide what tv you buy.
Yeah the thing is is just that there isnt any real demand for 3D, it's not as amazing as it was made out to be.
I have 3D on at about 15% or 20% up on the slider.
Never to the full 100% of 3D or 50%..
its only on when im playing games, and i would never pull the slider up more than 15 - 20%.
i love 3D its awesome for movies and games so i say no but i will say its total crap on the 3DS
movies i think are better than the games. games will be better when the games run at 1080p not 720p.

i think the fad has past considering 95% of movies are not even filmed in 3d, its all computer generated.
i love 3d... i want a 3d tv too
I haven't watched or played anything in 3D yet. I haven't seen the point in making anything 3D, if I want actual 3D stuff, more than likely I'll go do stuff in real life.
I haven't bought a 3DS yes, as I don't see the point of having it being 3D, the only reason I will buy one in the future if I do will be because I want to play some of the new games they're releasing on it, and undoubtly I'd end up playing them in 2D mode.
i actually like 3D. Actually i love 3D. I think the money has destroyed the potential we could of had. The Movie Industry is also to blame with the loss of appeal. Because the Movie Industry has made us pay ridiculous amount of money from 3D when it's not even better than 2D. For example they've taken GIJOE 2 back to production all because they think it'll be better in 3D. So they're wasting 8 months to add 3D in hope to make more money. Though if anyone saw the first movie and saw how bad that was who the hell would come back for a sequel.
So I think by the movie industry trying to rub it in our faces has made it lost its appeal.

3D can be really special and could open up a lot of ideas and influences especially when done right. And it can be a thing of beauty for gaming.

However the 3D in 3DS games haven't really been pushed to awesomeness. There are only 2 3DS games i can think of that use it absolutely well.

Super Mario 3D Land and Kid Icarus Uprising.
Kid Icarus Uprising has a very nice 3D effect at times. The lasers shooting out at you in my view is one of the best and enemies popping up infront of you. Absolutely love playing KI in 3D. And i encourage more people to do it.

Super Mario 3D land does very well especially making you actually have to use the 3D effect to see extra platforms and such. And it's a Mario game so you know it's good.

It does suck 3D has lost its appeal. I quite like it.
I wouldn't say it's a horrendous failure. I don't think it was ever going to become a standard like HD has become. I enjoy 3d. I always choose 3d sessions over standard at the cinema. And I always have 3d on when playing 3ds. However I have no intention of getting a 3d tv. I wouldn't want every game I play to be 3d. Or every movie/tv show for that matter.
The 3DS proves that there is a great audience who wish to have 3D as an element in their entertainment.
I have a 3D monitor which I love, but I don't use much. Not every game works well in 3D, for most games, it's a gimmick, but for a few, it adds sooo much. Like FEAR 2, that worked well in 3D =)
I still like 3D and if there is a movie showing in both, i will always go to the 3D one
Games are way better in 3D than movies there are a few movies which are good but most r crap, most games i have tried on PS3 and PC look awesome and so much better in 3D it feels like you have an edge when playing online with games like black ops and killzone 3 and Uncharted 3
No, I don't think its been a failure. I think when used in context to whats happening, it'll only get better.

Hardware will get better and it'll mature and these problems that we have now we'll be a thing of the past. 3d in all shapes and sizes have been around a long time but I think the last few years has really been good for the tech but I still think there's a bit of abuse of it too.
3D to 100% ALL THE WAY!!!
I feel like 3D is a cheap (well pricey actually) gimmick. I would go to a 2D session of a movie, that is if cinemas in Sydney bothered to keep them in 2 dimensions. But it's all about the money :\ 3D = extra $$$ to be forked out.

Jakerz said: I feel like 3D is a cheap (well pricey actually) gimmick. I would go to a 2D session of a movie, that is if cinemas in Sydney bothered to keep them in 2 dimensions. But it's all about the money :\ 3D = extra $$$ to be forked out.



hear you on this one especially in regards to sessions . Can't just go to a session without forking out something extra because of something fancy and if you do find a 'normal' sessions it at odd times . It can get very pricey but other than price gouging on us, i do think some of the tech is on the pricey side at the moment and should come down in time.

But I still like 3d and will continue to see movies in it if it's something worthwhile.
I do have a 3D TV & can say from first hand experience, that most games look very average in 3d, as it usually halves the native resolution & also most textures are down-ressed, reducing the overall quality. There are a couple of games though that do actually look good in 3D. One is "Super Stardust HD" & the other is "Killzone 3". I do think however that in the future when they can render the games at full 1080p with no reduction in quality, it may be a different story though. A much better story.
If 3D was more than nowadays 3D, there would be a bigger market for it. Honestly, 3D didnt do much for me, and same for thousands of other people.
Why get a 3D TV whereas there's basically no 3D on FTA and Foxtel - apart from the Olympics - and its price is much higher. The 3D Blu-Ray market way too small to warrant one.
I have the 3D slider on the 3DS a quarter way up for a short period of time, otherwise I have it off.
Agree the 3D effect should be for cinema, but not every film needs it.
like i said before, i love 3D, but it really depends on the actual product... for instance, when i went to imax as a kid, the 3d had more of a 'popping out' effect, and felt like it was really coming right at me, where as watching avatar in 3d back in '09 was more of a 'slightly off the screen' and more of a depth 3d (going into the screen, rather than popping out).

has anyone been to jb hi-fi lately? the latest 3d is called 'cinema 3d', which uses the normal glasses from cinemas (no battery). there is this LG 3d tv which is most likely on the floor for display as it is the best 3d tv out... put on the glasses and watch the 'pre-made' 3d video... IT IS AWESOME. but thats probly cause the video was made for that sole purpose... so in the end it depends on the 3d product itself lol

CptAwesome said: like i said before, i love 3D, but it really depends on the actual product... for instance, when i went to imax as a kid, the 3d had more of a 'popping out' effect, and felt like it was really coming right at me, where as watching avatar in 3d back in '09 was more of a 'slightly off the screen' and more of a depth 3d (going into the screen, rather than popping out).
has anyone been to jb hi-fi lately? the latest 3d is called 'cinema 3d', which uses the normal glasses from cinemas (no battery). there is this LG 3d tv which is most likely on the floor for display as it is the best 3d tv out... put on the glasses and watch the 'pre-made' 3d video... IT IS AWESOME. but thats probly cause the video was made for that sole purpose... so in the end it depends on the 3d product itself lol



LG owns that tech and they've had these tvs in Australia for a while now.
I've had the below tv since January this year and purchased it for $6000 (I got ripped off?), but now you can get my exact tv brand new for around $3000 at HN.

www.cnet.com.au/...

As far as I know LG has only lent the tech to TEAC.
Yes the term you guys are talking about is passive 3d

You got ripped of big time didn't you do any research before you bought the tv?
I'm a baller, so it's all good.

Nintendo said: I'm a baller, so it's all good.


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Was 3D and gaming a horrendous failure?
Nintendo always tries to go the extra mile with its tech. It always has and a lot of time it's paid off but I'm not sure it has with the 3DS. They could have returned to the Gameboy brand and made an awesome new handheld, but 3DS just isn't that flash imo.

3D gaming works. I don't think it'll ever be "mainstream", but it'll stick around.
People well always have an opinion on this subject. 3d is cool if you don't like then don't use and shut the **** up with your whining god damn it lol

Nintendo said: IMO, yes due to the fact that 99% of the population could actually live without 3D.


Stupid comment is stupid

99% of the population could live without video games too.

stublu said:

Nintendo said: IMO, yes due to the fact that 99% of the population could actually live without 3D.


Stupid comment is stupid
99% of the population could live without video games too.


I'm just curious, of all the people on here who are 3D TV bashers,how many of you actually own, or have had a decent sitting down with the tech to form an opinion? I'm guessing none of you. In a lot of cases I think you will find that a lot of the people who can 3D TV, only do so because they are jealous that they either (a) can't afford one, or (b) bought a HD TV just before the 3D TVs came out & are now pissed. I can tell you, while watching 3D movies/Doccos etc, that if mastered correctly, the effect is simply amazing. Also, there is plently of content already out for 3D, you just got to open your eyes !!

FireVapour said: (a) can't afford one, or (b) bought a HD TV just before the 3D TVs came out & are now pissed.


or... c) they only have one eye.

You monster.

FireVapour said: I'm just curious, of all the people on here who are 3D TV bashers,how many of you actually own, or have had a decent sitting down with the tech to form an opinion? I'm guessing none of you. In a lot of cases I think you will find that a lot of the people who can 3D TV, only do so because they are jealous that they either (a) can't afford one, or (b) bought a HD TV just before the 3D TVs came out & are now pissed. I can tell you, while watching 3D movies/Doccos etc, that if mastered correctly, the effect is simply amazing. Also, there is plently of content already out for 3D, you just got to open your eyes !!



I have one!

i bought a HD TV while 3D TVs were already out, even though i love 3d more, but that was because of the prices at the time, and i knew the technology was in its early stages and that it would advance and get better, and cheaper too... i was right. now they have Passive 3d, AND the prices are the same as HDTVs, so im looking to get one soonish (just gotta sell my 40" LCD Gloss screen Samsung TV, anyone interested? ;)

but yeah, passive 3D is awesome. dont know about the whole 'half resolution' thing, i didnt notice reduced quality when i watched it in the jb store, i'd still get it. i actually bought an alienware laptop the other day with the option to get it with a 3d screen, but chose not to cause i dont wana wear glasses while on my laptop, and it was too pricey lol

EDIT: the only problem i have is even though i love 3d, there are 2 major TVs that stand out to me atm and i cant pick between them. if u walk into ur local jb hi-fi, im sure they will both be on display as they are their 2 top sellers. one is the LG passive 3d one which they will have on show no doubt with the glasses (green and orange ones i think). the other is the Samsung "Smart" TV, which i think is the best quality TV out atm, and this is definitely on display as well.

what do u think? picture quality vs 3d??

Nintendo said:

stublu said:

Nintendo said: IMO, yes due to the fact that 99% of the population could actually live without 3D.


Stupid comment is stupid
99% of the population could live without video games too.




I LOL'd
Looks like 3d gaming outside of the 3ds has passed us by, it's all but dead now. I think they pushed 3d tech before it was really ready. The next gen consoles have the power to do full HD 3d and 4k TV's mean even using "Cinema 3d" that we could have full 1080 3d. But pushing 3d before the technology was ready has probably turned people away from it giving people a poor first impression. Personally I like 3d but it seems it will not be more than a niche market going forward.

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