[SSBB] QLD & SA Unity Ruleset

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This thread is for the discussion of a united Ruleset in SSBB between QLD and SA.

The ruleset needs everything from Stage List, Character bans, Ledge Grab Limit (LGL) and Time Limit discussed and decided (Along with any other ideas people may want discussed)

I would like to clarify that while anyone is allowed, indeed encouraged, to partake in the discussion, I would really prefer a lack of troll posts (I'm looking at you Toki) Also, if you would like to participate, please make sure to do your research first as there are many things to consider.

The following is what we would ultimately like to see in a unified ruleset.
 •  A balanced ruleset
 •  A community which is enjoyable for everyone
 •  A healthy, competitive envoirment




Method:
I think the best way to do this would be to start with one topic/part of the ruleset. The largest issue in the ruleset would be the legality of Metaknight. This will make a difference on the rest of the ruleset, thus is likely needed to be decided first.

I would also like to add that many people will disagree with each other but I'd like everyone to try and keep an open-mind and try to see it from the view of someone else.

I would also like to add that I'm more inclined to be interested in the ideas of SA or QLD players (I'm an honourary QLDer O.K?) that said, everyones opinion is appreciated.
I'll put infomation that is relevant to the ruleset discussion here. I'll do that at some point in the near future :P
This is for things that have already been discussed, anything that needs to be re-discussed and what we are currently... discussing.

We'll start off with the legality of Metaknight. Should he be banned? Perhaps just in Doubles? Share your opinion.

So far the ruleset has been discussed a little and it is the general consensus that the MK ban at least be trialled. Agreed upon but the vast majority of QLD and SA players.

So far the Ruleset stands at:

MK banned (on a trial period)

The next things I would like to discuss is the LGL (Ledge Gra b Limit) and then the Time Limit. Start discussing whenever you want.
You are not Shitashi

Japanese 3 stages for singles.

Lots of stages for double.

Singles srs business
I say no trolls and the first three posts that aren't mine are trolls lol

Anyway, I'll do work on this later but I'm out for now. Ta.
i didn't even read it
this should be allowed
super-smash-bros.wikia.com/...
OK so...

For this to work I really think that the fewer people making the hard decisions the better. If it's gonna be QLD & SA and AD3PT isn't interested in presiding over the rules then between Apollo & I I think it's possible for something to get started.

Apollo because:
 •  He is easily the best person to represent SA imo
 •  His memberships on SB, here and AN give him a broad view on a variety of issues in Smash from different angles
 •  I believe him to be fair and intelligent, and have never disagreed with one of his posts and even learnt quite a lot from listening to him

This isn't to say nobody gets a say but if we do it democratically like it has been every time on SB with 3 people from 4 states it's going to be tied down in process.

12 person SB panel on rules is a pipe dream imo

Do people trust us two enough to listen to everybody and make a decision for the good of our two scenes?
I trust Apollo, yes.

I kinda don't trust Crayon for the smash thing, but if Apollo's there to keep him in check, it's fine. [monkey]
Edite the title to avoid some confusion and so people who aren't interested in SSBB won't waste their time.
I hold Apollo's view higher than my own so I can't forsee myself trying to bend his arm on anything too crazy. While I like idea of a 3 stage list I can see the hipocracy in this:

* banning MK is an anti-competitive decision and is done to encourage the use of other characters and create a generally better tournament experience

* restricting stages seems to be perceived as making the game less fun, which flies in the face of what we're trying to do with the MK ban.

I'm open to having more stages but think if we decide to allow MK and become competitive on an international level for instance then a 3 stage starter may be an option then.

Snix said: Edite the title to avoid some confusion and so people who aren't interested in SSBB won't waste their time.


who's wasting time?
Apollo FTW *_*
Vote 1 For Emery =_=

emery said:

Snix said: Edite the title to avoid some confusion and so people who aren't interested in SSBB won't waste their time.


who's wasting time?



+1

Those poor people

Look at Snix's sig he's scarred from dealing with us. [MOG]
PS2 isn't a very good level remove it at once

Shitashi said: I hold Apollo's view higher than my own so I can't forsee myself trying to bend his arm on anything too crazy. While I like idea of a 3 stage list I can see the hipocracy in this:
* banning MK is an anti-competitive decision and is done to encourage the use of other characters and create a generally better tournament experience
* restricting stages seems to be perceived as making the game less fun, which flies in the face of what we're trying to do with the MK ban.

homg this is the big thing

Which is also kinda why I won't support Jezmo's idea of having neutrals as CP's and banning other CP's in support of a 3 stage starter list.
Do you trust Shitashi?
3 stocks
8 minute timer
40 LGL
Starters: BF, LC, SV, YI Brawl, FD
CP's: PS1, CS, Delphino, Halberd, PS2, Frigate, Brinstar


I trust Crayon. [MOG]
When it comes to stagelists, I trust Oreovirgin on this.
But I don't think a unified list is required so w/e [MOG]

Kurogane said: 3 stocks
8 minute timer
40 LGL
Starters: BF, LC, SV, YI Brawl, FD
CP's: PS1, CS, Delphino, Halberd, PS2, Frigate, Brinstar
I trust Crayon.


Yeah, I could agree with that.

emery said:
who's wasting time?


well, I clicked the thread not knowing what it was. Had I known prior to clicking it what it was about, I may not have bothered. Brawl doesn't concern everyone, so its not likely that everyone would even want to look at the thread if they know going on hat it's actually about.

Shitashi said:
Those poor people
Look at Snix's sig he's scarred from dealing with us.



Yeah you wish.

Anyhow guys, good thread idea. Let's keep it on topic :)

Kurogane said: 3 stocks
8 minute timer
40 LGL
Starters: BF, LC, SV, YI Brawl, FD
CP's: PS1, CS, Delphino, Halberd, PS2, Frigate, Brinstar
I trust Crayon.




My big issue with this is you have not compromised at all.

I certainly trust you Chris but I would feel a little awkward about not being in the final decision. I don't know, maybe it's for the better. As I said earlier, it will, in the end, simply come down to you and Apollo as you guys are the TOs and put the most work into the community.

I was under the impression that Mywii is a site to discuss online brawl and other games, while smashboards is the site to discuss things like this.
Just because there are people on that site that don't agree with you guys...I dunno, I just reckon there will be a few people who will be unimpressed by you guys making your own rules behind their backs.
Not me though, I couldn't care less what your respective state decides. I'll keep coming to your tournaments lol.
It's not really like that Jei. Apollo, Kaion and myself all visit this site more then Smashboards so it makes perfect sense.

We also have more of a chance discussing this is a civil manner with a couple of people rather then a 12 person comittee.

If people like Apollo, Chris and I can get on the same page, it just means we can inform the Smashboards comittee earlier.
 
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