Crytek believes CryEngine three years ahead of Unreal 4

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Crytek boss Cevat Yerli believes that CryEngine 3 "already exists at the quality of [Epic’s] Unreal Engine 4... for three years now."

Epic games recently revealed their newest iteration of their long-running Unreal engines at E3, but Yerli insists it's nothing compared to Crytek's work.

You can go back three years ago to the GDC videos. What we put out there is pretty much what Unreal Engine 4 put out now. And what many others are doing now too."

Yerli has insisted that CryEngine has a lot more to offer to game developers in terms of raw power for the next gen.

"We haven't really put out our latest stuff yet," he said. "Pretty soon you're going to see the next iteration of CryEngine, and I'm not putting a number behind it, just the next iteration of CryEngine. Very soon."

But we already said, CryEngine 3 is next-gen ready since three years ago. We stand by that. If I look at what people call next-gen technology now, it's what we were seeing three years ago."

Yerli elaborated on their achievements. "We already had massive particle systems, we already had GPU rendering, all these things. Deferred shading. We had tessellation already since we shipped Crysis 2. We already had DX11."

We didn't just talk it up as tech demos, we have games that are shipped and are doing it.”

Modest, huh?

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Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can. And CryEngine... that's just sad.
Crytek are so full of **** and who cares.

We are gonna do this cause we are better bla bla bla. How about you make a good game first that plays well.
@whaling: People tell me you are joking. Unreal Engine is named after the Unreal series which has been around since the 90's.
Unreal
Unreal: Return to Na Pali
Unreal Tournament
Unreal 2: The Awakening
Unreal Tournament 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004
Unreal Tournament 3

Not to mention the PS2 and Xbox versions.
whaling was just making a satirical comment. :P It's still a bit of an inappropriate name for what they try to achieve with the engine.

I don't think devs have fully taken advantage of what's on offer at the moment so I don't see the need to put so much resources on the development of new ones =/.

gdmatt said: @whaling: People tell me you are joking. Unreal Engine is named after the Unreal series which has been around since the 90's.
Unreal
Unreal: Return to Na Pali
Unreal Tournament
Unreal 2: The Awakening
Unreal Tournament 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004
Unreal Tournament 3
Not to mention the PS2 and Xbox versions.


It was a pun -_-

Marge said: whaling was just making a satirical comment.


'Satire' might be overstating the complexity of the joke :P
ya Crytek they make the best 1st person shooters ever
The greatest graphics engine for 1 million years is the human imagination or untill robots make the matrix.

Gaminggirl said: Crytek are so full of **** and who cares.
We are gonna do this cause we are better bla bla bla. How about you make a good game first that plays well.



???
I don't think you know what an engine does, huh?

Or even played ArcheAge.
[Facepalm]No idea lol.

Gaminggirl said: No idea lol.


Haha, honesty (*)

whaling said: Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can.


[Facepalm] [Facepalm] [Facepalm] [Facepalm]
Isn't that what they are all trying to achieve? most realistic graphics and effects?
Yes all to have the most realistic graphics but gameplay is my main thing graphics is a bonus.

MoeMan said:

whaling said: Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can.


Isn't that what they are all trying to achieve? most realistic graphics and effects?



Thus why 'UNreal' isn't a good name...
Hehe, gonna make Free To Play games with that engine? Farmville HD? =)

Gaminggirl said: Yes all to have the most realistic graphics but gameplay is my main thing graphics is a bonus.


An engine is what games run in. The better the engine, the easier it is for current console/hardware to run games. A good example is how Halo 2, which came out for the 360, looks with the old engine compared to how Halo Reach looks in the new one. They're both on the same hardware; the engine made the difference.
who cares Crytek make the best looking games anyway and have the best gameplay for a 1st person shooter nothing else comes close, so unless you have a PC with a GTX680 vid card and can see what it can do and play like dont coment and make yourself look stupid as Crytek do have the gameplay to back up there sweet sweet graphics

gammaray13 said: who cares Crytek make the best looking games anyway and have the best gameplay for a 1st person shooter nothing else comes close, so unless you have a PC with a GTX680 vid card and can see what it can do and play like dont coment and make yourself look stupid as Crytek do have the gameplay to back up there sweet sweet graphics



You make yourself look stupid all the time, as if you have a GTX680 card lol. Probably don't even have a PC. Why don't you prove me wrong? Post a pic or your Steam or Origin names

OllyEbbz said:

gammaray13 said: who cares Crytek make the best looking games anyway and have the best gameplay for a 1st person shooter nothing else comes close, so unless you have a PC with a GTX680 vid card and can see what it can do and play like dont coment and make yourself look stupid as Crytek do have the gameplay to back up there sweet sweet graphics


You make yourself look stupid all the time, as if you have a GTX680 card lol. Probably don't even have a PC. Why don't you prove me wrong? Post a pic or your Steam or Origin names


dicky why are you such a wanker, if you have a PC which u dont cos you will prove me right join me on Battlefield 3 right now im gammaray13

whaling said: Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can. And CryEngine... that's just sad.


loooooooooooooooooooooooool

this is amazing and you should feel amazing
Most amazing first person you are kidding crysis 2 for instance

Had shitty AI could walk straight past them they had people facing walls.
Shooting mechanics imo was clunky at best, yes it looks good but is average as a game

And i dont have to have a pc with gp56030454 :P card to have a opinion.

Like i said yes it looks good but to me game play has alot to do with it. :D
well go play the game on a pc them have an opinion

gammaray13 said:

OllyEbbz said:

gammaray13 said: who cares Crytek make the best looking games anyway and have the best gameplay for a 1st person shooter nothing else comes close, so unless you have a PC with a GTX680 vid card and can see what it can do and play like dont coment and make yourself look stupid as Crytek do have the gameplay to back up there sweet sweet graphics


You make yourself look stupid all the time, as if you have a GTX680 card lol. Probably don't even have a PC. Why don't you prove me wrong? Post a pic or your Steam or Origin names


dicky why are you such a wanker, if you have a PC which u dont cos you will prove me right join me on Battlefield 3 right now im gammaray13



Ive sent you a friend request if you are the Gammaray13 on Origin.

OllyEbbz said:

gammaray13 said:

OllyEbbz said:

gammaray13 said: who cares Crytek make the best looking games anyway and have the best gameplay for a 1st person shooter nothing else comes close, so unless you have a PC with a GTX680 vid card and can see what it can do and play like dont coment and make yourself look stupid as Crytek do have the gameplay to back up there sweet sweet graphics


You make yourself look stupid all the time, as if you have a GTX680 card lol. Probably don't even have a PC. Why don't you prove me wrong? Post a pic or your Steam or Origin names


dicky why are you such a wanker, if you have a PC which u dont cos you will prove me right join me on Battlefield 3 right now im gammaray13


Ive sent you a friend request if you are the Gammaray13 on Origin.


no you havent
So what you are saying i have to play games on pc to have a opinion?

gammaray13 said:
no you havent



Afraid so... click view image you'll see its my account 'dumbnutz' and that i've sent you a friend request. It states your offline by the way. I smell a porky

OllyEbbz said: Just let it be.



You're starting to look like you're in love with gammaray.
well im online
Gamamray13 and i must have a split personality according to dicky whoops i mean Ollybbz Cause on the same topic we are having different opinions lol. [WTF]

Kerosanak said:

OllyEbbz said: Just let it be.


You're starting to look like you're in love with gammaray.



Yeah i want his babies =D

Gaminggirl said: So what you are saying i have to play games on pc to have a opinion?


yes thats if you want to knock the PC

Gaminggirl said: Gamamray13 and i must have a split personality according to dicky whoops i mean Ollybbz Cause on the same topic we are having different opinions lol.



I've seen many trolls argue with themselves online to get attention or support themselves with many accounts to feel better.
Never knocked the Pc the topic is about crytek engine not about what you play it on and as far as i no crysis, crysis 2 where on console as well.

And they have said this engine is for all therre new games in progress which includes crysis 3 which they showed at E3 running on a 360.
@ Dicky

OllyEbbz said:

Gaminggirl said: Gamamray13 and i must have a split personality according to dicky whoops i mean Ollybbz Cause on the same topic we are having different opinions lol.


I've seen many trolls argue with themselves online to get attention or support themselves with many accounts to feel better.



You seriously have problems!

Gaminggirl said: @ Dicky

OllyEbbz said:

Gaminggirl said: Gamamray13 and i must have a split personality according to dicky whoops i mean Ollybbz Cause on the same topic we are having different opinions lol.


I've seen many trolls argue with themselves online to get attention or support themselves with many accounts to feel better.


You seriously have problems!



That's me! wooo now where's my medication? [Shifty]

@Gammaray13 tells me on Origin that he's 41... [MOG]
Are you guys OK? Do you even know what you're arguing right now? And how the hell will playing Battlefield 3 online prove he has a 680? [WTF]
Okay Guys. Can you give it a rest or not? all i'm reading is shit about random things that have hardly/nothing to do with this article.

great article there @Tyrus
Added both of you haha.

Anyway I see where Gaminggirl is coming from (for once). CryEngine has always looked amazing but they've never really managed to put it into an excellent game. Crysis 1 was a proper wtf game because it only recently got topped graphically but the game itself was always pretty mediocre. I found it terribly boring unless I modded it to make it more realistic and harder. The end sucked ass no matter what you did though...

Crysis 2 was a definite improvement in terms of game narrative and enjoyment but again it was too easy and would benefit from the same mods which were not around at the time I played it.

Don't need a 680 to max Crysis 2 though, I was running it maxed on a single GTX570 because it didn't have an SLI profile at the time either so wouldn't use both my cards.

I think Battlefield 3 actually impressed me slightly more graphically, tough call between the two.

Unreal engine being this good is much more exciting news, simply because eleventy billion games use this engine, so we will actually SEE games with graphics like this. CryEngine is sadly underutilised so though it is capable of some amazing shit, we do not get enough games to demonstrate this.

Bring on the new generation of consoles already, I think we can all agree it would be nice to see graphics move on a little! I want to upgrade my PC but there is just no point forking out the money when games are just stuck in 2005!!
agree Skarteh (for once) with you to lol.

Next year hopefully is the year for new consoles to start pushing things forward again.

Skarteh said: Added both of you haha.
Anyway I see where Gaminggirl is coming from (for once). CryEngine has always looked amazing but they've never really managed to put it into an excellent game. Crysis 1 was a proper wtf game because it only recently got topped graphically but the game itself was always pretty mediocre. I found it terribly boring unless I modded it to make it more realistic and harder. The end sucked ass no matter what you did though...
Crysis 2 was a definite improvement in terms of game narrative and enjoyment but again it was too easy and would benefit from the same mods which were not around at the time I played it.
Don't need a 680 to max Crysis 2 though, I was running it maxed on a single GTX570 because it didn't have an SLI profile at the time either so wouldn't use both my cards.
I think Battlefield 3 actually impressed me slightly more graphically, tough call between the two.
Unreal engine being this good is much more exciting news, simply because eleventy billion games use this engine, so we will actually SEE games with graphics like this. CryEngine is sadly underutilised so though it is capable of some amazing shit, we do not get enough games to demonstrate this.
Bring on the new generation of consoles already, I think we can all agree it would be nice to see graphics move on a little! I want to upgrade my PC but there is just no point forking out the money when games are just stuck in 2005!!


i only slightly agree with you but tell what 1st person shooter is hard ?? none thats right most of them are very easy, as far as new consoles they are just about dead the PC will be the way to go for next few years, plus i would rather Quality than quantity
Yes quailty is true that where ps3 exclusives cant go wrong.

New consoles are what generate money for all the game developers so to say they are dead is interesting considering majority are sold on either Sony, microsoft or nintendo.

Yes Pc will be where its at until the new 720 or ps4 come out but is it that much of a jump over current console and worth buying a whole no rig to me No.

With games such as the Last of us, The last guardian Bioshock 3 Tomb raider God of war 4, Gears ow war, Halo and so on. Running on a Pc is the Last of us or God of war gonna look better no its not.

So to say new consoles that arnt even out yet are dead is very interesting.

IAMColonel said:

MoeMan said:

whaling said: Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can.


Isn't that what they are all trying to achieve? most realistic graphics and effects?


Thus why 'UNreal' isn't a good name...


It's a name [Facepalm]

Gaminggirl said: on a Pc is the Last of us or God of war gonna look better no its not.
So to say new consoles that arnt even out yet are dead is very interesting.



Sorry to burst your bubble there, but console gaming has been holding back game developers for a few years now due to limitations set forth by consoles. A prime example as of late is the option to download high definition textures onto Xbox 360 versions of Battlefield 3. Something which be common practice in gaming these days.

Even medium-tier PCs these days can out perform consoles.

Edit: How on Earth did I confuse "Battlefield" with "Battlefront"?
... and end up with "Battlefriend"... hahaha!

MoeMan said:

IAMColonel said:

MoeMan said:

whaling said: Neither of them are very good names. 'Unreal' Engine, when you're trying to mimic reality as best you can.


Isn't that what they are all trying to achieve? most realistic graphics and effects?


Thus why 'UNreal' isn't a good name...


It's a name



It was a joke... a lame joke, as he said. :P
lol sorry to burst your bubble if you read properly and not just take the lines out you want i said it is time for new consoles so you rnt bursting my bubble.

I want the new engines and machines so things can be pushed once again. But atm consoles will hold dev back cause the money is with the consoles and thats why i said the difference isnt that great for me to go buy a new pc.

Maybe you should read the whole thing before commenting. Might be a good idea.

IAMColonel said: ... and end up with "Battlefriend"... hahaha!



I caught that! I think that means it is bed time. Too old for this stuff.

Gaminggirl said: not just take the lines out you want i said it is time for new consoles so you rnt bursting my bubble.



It's intentional to focus on one part of a post. Having said that, I did read your whole thing. Why else would I reply? Stop being a silly goose.

The engines already exist. But it's just not the hardware alone that holds back game development from progressing. Developers constantly comment on how 'free' it is to produce games on PC, and how restrictive it can be on certain consoles for their design choices. Not due just because of hardware itself but how it is utilised.
your not saying anything we dont no.

Good on them if they just developed for pc they wouldnt have a business.

So why is yr say any important than anyone esles lets make anew account

Ok lets just focus on a few words someone says from now on not the whole paragraph. we can then turn it into what ever your little mind thinks hey good on ya.


Like i have said bring on new systems. :D
Uh. Come again for big fudge?

Gaminggirl said: Yes all to have the most realistic graphics but gameplay is my main thing graphics is a bonus.



Lol if you really believed that you'd own a Wii, but you've constantly on this site fought tooth and nail with everyone saying the Ps3 is better cause it has better graphics than PC and everything else in the world. Did you finally change ur mind?

Gaminggirl said: Gamamray13 and i must have a split personality according to dicky whoops i mean Ollybbz Cause on the same topic we are having different opinions lol.



Drawing attention to this once in a lifetime event makes it seem more obvious both accounts are the one person, and you're faking a difference of opinion because people are calling you out for having two accounts.

Gaminggirl said: Like i have said bring on new systems. :D



Gonna buy a WiiU? :P
Nah im sticking to my ps3 lol, wiiu will not be as powerful as the ps3.

No i no new cards have come out but the ps3 games coming out this and next are still gonna rock and my point is i cant see the point in buying a pc when its not a huge jump. And the point in having a ps3 are the exclusives are only for it. And nothing matchs the exclusives

But Bring on the new consoles christmas 2013

Gaminggirl said: Nah im sticking to my ps3 lol, wiiu will not be as powerful as the ps3.
No i no new cards have come out but the ps3 games coming out this and next are still gonna rock and my point is i cant see the point in buying a pc when its not a huge jump. And the point in having a ps3 are the exclusives are only for it. And nothing matchs the exclusives
But Bring on the new consoles christmas 2013



Lol case and point. Several named developers have come out on several occasions to show why the WiiU is much more powerful than the current-gen HD consoles. A 4800 series GPU in the WiiU is about 5-8x more powerful than the 7800GTX in the Ps3 for starters, and it has 3-4 times more ram. See this is why noone takes you seriously and thinks you're a blind fangirl trolling us. The developers must be lying right?

THQ: "WiiU is just alot more powerful than current HD consoles it does 1080p very easy."

Crytek: "WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good"

Vigil Games: "We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins."

Epic: "It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box."

EA: "Wii U is not a transitional platform, it is a true next generation system."

Gearbox: "The Wii U is a more powerful machine"
And yet we still have no proof, once they bring the specs out ill eat my words

Gaminggirl said: And yet we still have no proof, once they bring the specs out ill eat my words



Lol isn't that a convenient way to get out of it considering Nintendo will possibly never release the specs lol. So as long as Nintendo doesn't tell the official specs, even if every developer working on the WiiU says its much more powerful, you'll continue to believe whatever you like? Geez i hope owning a Ps3 in the future doesn't turn me into a blind fanboy/girl like you. Gah!
I own all 3 Foetoid, i buy all the consoles and always have. I hope it is a kick ass machine but the showing at E3 was pretty piss poor and mario wasnt anything startling so surely you can see that. I have had every nintendo released so dont jump on me watch E3 again.

Gaminggirl said: I own all 3 Foetoid so get of the grass, i buy all the consoles and always have. I hope it is a kick ass machine but the showing at E3 was pretty piss poor and mario wasnt anything startling so surely you can see that. I have had every nintendo released so dont jump on me watch E3 again.



Hey i watched all of E3 too. I found the entire show to be very lackluster this year, that 'Wonderbook' thing made me wanna curl up in a corner and cry. But tbh i think Sony and Nintendo to me tied for the best show. Sony showed off some great games (i completely ignored the blatant smash-bros rip-off) and i'm looking forward to getting some when i get a Ps3 in 10-12 months. Nintendo showed off Pikmin 3 which was just perfect, saw some great stuff there but again, it wasn't as good as it could have been. And Microsoft had an awful conference IMO. I'd rather not watch E3 again it was bad enough the first time lol.
Yes agree Wonderbook was just like what the, E3 was just very average And i was expecting big things from Nintendo and i was left shocked and stunned.

I bet you buy the sony smash em up though hehe looks insane

Gaminggirl said: Yes agree Wonderbook was just like what the, E3 was just very average And i was expecting big things from Nintendo and i was left shocked and stunned.
I bet you buy the sony smash em up though hehe looks insane



Lol of course it looks insane, they've taken everything thats good about Smash Bros and put it together with a whole host of characters from a new console where its never been done. Definitely looks like a lot of fun because its all new characters that havent been in this style of fighting game but since i own smash bros, and i'll be getting the new WiiU/3DS one, i can't really justify buying the sony version. Definitely keen on The Last of Us, GOW: Ascension and Ni No Kuni though. And that other one, two souls?
Yeah my son wants it for the 3ds as well, im sure ill have a shot of it hehe. I buy all the exclusives as you pretty much no anyway. but i am hanging for all the new consoles to push us forward.

Gaminggirl said: Yeah my son wants it for the 3ds as well, im sure ill have a shot of it hehe. I buy all the exclusives as you pretty much no anyway. but i am hanging for all the new consoles to push us forward.



Sony themselves have had to close two studios recently due to their games not selling too well. The idea of 'pushing us forward' isnt exactly popular with everyone. Iwata really nailed it in a recent interview:

"“My impression is that the things that happened with Wii v 360 or Wii v PS3 won’t happen again. If they decide to increase the spec numbers, will the consumers be able to realise the difference enough so that they can understand it’s much superior to today’s machine? And also, if they beef up the processing power, that simply means much more work for software developers to take advantage of those spec numbers. So I have to ask the question if that type of differentiation really makes sense. "

Which is true enough. Is the every day consumer going to be able to tell the difference between a 720p Ps3 game upscaled to 1080p, or a 1080p Ps4 game on a newer engine? Unlikely, the difference wont be as big as people seem to think it is simply because hardware hasn't improved much in 3 years. 5 months ago i had a HD4890 GPU in my PC, similar to the WiiU gpu, and it could run every game maxed out no worries. A 3 year old graphics card being good enough to max out current games. Hardware simply hasnt advanced much so the graphic leap between next gen isn't going to be substantial, its just going to mean much more work for devs, needing double the sales they need now just to break even, and developers will be shutting their doors even faster than they are now. I'm really worried about next-gen in this regard.
@Foetoid Where'd you get that quote from? [WTF]
inb4 frostbite 2 :O

abujaffer said: @Foetoid Where'd you get that quote from?



From Iwata? Lol. This interview:

www.telegraph.co.uk/...
@ Foetoid

This is one of my points about everyone going on about pc yes sure its a jump but not at the money its worth buying a whole no rig.

Thats also why new consoles have that edge because the developer (some) try and get that little bit more out of it.

Ill be the first to admit im not a pc peson, dont no bout all the numbers but im sure sony, Microsoft and of course nintendo will come out with something special they always have cant see this being any different.
I've yet to see Crytek actually make a game. So far, it seems that all they've released have been tech demos with really terrible puns on their own name.

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