WiiU Rumors Update 1

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I happen to be a big fan of all things Nintendo. Some might call me fanatical, others might call me obsessed. I like to imagine myself as "measured" in my approach to checking the 7 links i have in my Google Chrome bookmarks bar all pointing to WiiU information sites 10 times a day each. Its a lifestyle, and the internet has made it much easier to access information the moment its leaked, rumored, lied about or confirmed compared to 15 years ago when i was neck-deep in N64 Gamer magazine. I'm genuine enough of a gamer to appreciate what the other consoles are doing, heck if i had the money i'd own them too. But Nintendo have my heart (and a good portion of my soul probably) and as such i'd like to start a series of fortnightly or monthly articles updated with the latest information on the WiiU, whether rumored, confirmed, or just plain lies.

On the software side of things, the launch window is looking stronger than any other console launch in living memory. Hardcore gamers are going to have a field day with all that will be available and many wallets will cry out in agony. Lets go through a list of what may or may not be available in and around the launch window.

GTAV:

Not confirmed for Wii U but more than likely coming out at the end of the year anyway. Take Two Interactive has been quoted as saying they are "Looking at it very seriously" for WiiU.

Pikmin 3:

Miyamoto has been pretty vocal in his enjoyment working on this game. Nintendo now know better than to launch a console without a first party title (looking at you 3DS), so seeing this at launch is an almost certainty.

Darksiders 2:

Confirmed for launch.

Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing 2:

Has been hinted at a few times in the last months for multiplatform release. No official announcement. Given the success of the first one on Wii it seems an absolute given.

Ninja Gaiden 3:

Confirmed for launch.

Lego City Stories:

Confirmed exclusive to WiiU and 3DS and late-2012/launch release.

Batman Arkham City:

Confirmed for WiiU with late-2012/launch release.

Aliens: Colonial Marines:

Confirmed for WiiU and launching in Spring 2012 in Aus. 360/Ps3/PC versions will likely come out first making the WiiU version effectively a launch certainty.

Eternal Darkness 2:

Lots of pure speculation for this title. Nintendo renewed the rights to Eternal Darkness in 2010, then in 2011, Silcon Knights revealed there were working on something they've done before and "everyone wants to see again". Take it as it sounds.

Killer Freaks From Outer Space:

Confirmed WiiU exclusive with no official release date. The game has tongues wagging with the ability of 1 player with a Wiimote or Classic Controller playing the game FPS style on the main screen, while the player with the WiiU controller gets a top-down view and is the person spawning enemies strategically.

Metro: Last Light:

Confirmed for WiiU but delayed until early 2012

Project Cars:

Confirmed for WiiU with a vague "2012" release date.

Tekken:

Confirmed for a WiiU version, with no release date or much more information than that.

Assassins Creed 3:

While this game in particular hasn't been confirmed for WiiU, Ubisoft has announced they are bringing an Assassins Creed game to the WiiU. Whether thats AC3 or not is pure speculation, but they do launch about the same time.

Dragon Quest X:

Confirmed as a Dragon Quest Online MMO with cross-platform play between Wii and WiiU users. Currently penciled in for a 2012 release. A monthly subscription plan hasn't been confirmed or denied.


On the Hardware side of the fence, most of the confirmed specs and information can be googled but 3 things remain a mystery; Cpu, Gpu and RAM specifications. IBM has been quoted as saying they using an all-new Power-based CPU at 45nm with the "same processor technology found in the Watson CPUs". The 'Watson' CPU is a Power-7 IBM chip that even in its lowest spec runs at 2.4ghz in a quad-core configuration and they're significantly more powerful than the "Cell" CPU that powers the Ps3. How Nintendos custom Power-7 chip stacks up to a real 'Watson' is anyones guess at this point, but its certainly looking very promising.

Gpu wise its looking to be packing an ATI R770-based GPU, the same ones found in the HD4850/4870/4890. These chips are very good graphics chips. They are a couple of generations old now with the ATI 7000 series being available to, but in saying that, graphics-card technology hasn't advanced considerably in the last couple of years since the 4000 series. My computer packs a HD4890 and i have no problems even running Crysis: Warhead and Skyrim maxed out and smoothly. Console GPUs are different though, with the ancient 7800GTX in the PS3 still pumping out amazing visuals even today. An R770 chip is again, a very significant leap in power over the Ps3 chip. Dropping a 7800GTX in a PC these days won't run any thing available on the Ps3, so putting something as good as a R770-based GPU in the WiiU will see it run rings around the Ps3/360 and compete well with the next-generation consoles from Sony and Microsoft. Developers have had some very interesting quotes regarding WiiU hardware:


THQ: "WiiU is just alot more powerful than current HD consoles it does 1080p very easy."

Crytek: "WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good"

Vigil Games: "We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins."

Epic: "It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box."

Valve/EA want there digital services on WiiU, with EA wanting exclusivity, says alot about the power, with EA boss recently going to see nintendo about full specs then all of a sudden EA want exclusivity? Interesting.

Anonymous insider: "Tech demo's not possible on ps3/360."

Thanks for joining me in Episode 1 of my little rumor series. I have such a need to vent this information and i thought it would be a good way to get all the information in 1 spot for everyone to see, then update it fortnightly-monthly. So stay tuned for the next rumors update, which will probably get a little more frequent the closer we get to E3. I've also set up my name as a tag in these articles so people can find them again fairly easily

Source: http://game0n.net/2012/02/25/dead-space-overstrike-timesplitters-4/

Link to us http://wii.mmgn.com/News/WiiU-Rumors-Update-1
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I can't wait
Great collection of information and very good read, Wii U is looking promising =D.
Wii U > SexBox 720
great idea dude! i look forward to future articles!
Thanks for the feedback guys! :) only 3 more months until E3 is apon us!

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[MOG] [Derp]
[Derp] *drool*

Its hard not to get excited reading this stuff, thanks for all the juicy info!
Yes but they do say it does 1080p real easy, so will other current consoles when they are released. If it didn't do 1080p there would be problems. FullHD wasn't really around with the launch of previous consoles. It was there but not like it is now

chucky110 said: Yes but they do say it does 1080p real easy, so will other current consoles when they are released. If it didn't do 1080p there would be problems. FullHD wasn't really around with the launch of previous consoles. It was there but not like it is now



Which is definitely a good thing. With all 3 next-gen console tied in with 1080p, all being roughly similarly powered, it'll be a graphically even console war for once. Then it'll be exclusive content that wins the day, so doesn't that make Nintendo the winner by default? :P

Foetoid said: Then it'll be exclusive content that wins the day, so doesn't that make Nintendo the winner by default?


Not to the FPS fanboys.

Kurogane said:

Foetoid said: Then it'll be exclusive content that wins the day, so doesn't that make Nintendo the winner by default?


Not to the FPS fanboys.



Considering the fact all 3rd party is likely to be on all consoles, that means that the CODs and the Battlefields will be on WiiU. The FPS fanboys getting a WiiU just miss out on Resistance and Halo and Killzone, and gain Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Mario kart, Smash bros, 2d mario platformers, 3d mario platformers, ghost recon online, pikmin plus the many exclusive games made by retro, monolithsoft and mistwalker.

That being said, gamers can own more than 1 console of course, but from a hardcore point of view the WiiU seems to be an excellent buy.
Wii U is really becoming an interest to me. At first i had no plan on buying it but now... [Derp]

Dr_Mario said: Wii U is really becoming an interest to me. At first i had no plan on buying it but now...



Thats exactly the effect i'm hoping my articles will have, its a shame they won't show up over on the 360/Ps3 pages to build some excitement over there with Nintendo fans who likely gave up on the Wii and shifted over to the 360/Ps3
Wow! Nice article, man. Keep up the good work!
Some people are scared about nintendo's lack of information on the wii u. I find their silence comforting because I know they're constantly upgrading and tweaking the console, and they're going to blow us away at e3. They've learnt from their mistakes.
My body is ready.

Josh
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Wii U...to be more powerful than the PS3? And just about on par with current gen high-end PCs?

hell yeah, wii u will be more powerful than the PS3. PS3 wasnt even that powerful to start with. im not sure about pcs tho. that seems unlikely.

Josh said: Wii U...to be more powerful than the PS3? And just about on par with current gen high-end PCs?



Seems pretty obvious a piece of hardware released in 2012 would be much more powerful than a piece of hardware in 2006, since the general rule is computer hardware doubles in speed and power every 18-24 months. [Facepalm] :P
"general rule is computer hardware doubles in speed and power every 18-24 months."

close, but not exactly.. the amount of transistors we can fit on a circuit doubles, but this does not mean that speed / power doubles every 18 months. ( en.wikipedia.org/... )

if it did.. well.. [MOG]

but pretty sure the Wii U is using a modified video card based on the radeon 4000 series, which is a few years old already.. but still very capable and more powerful than current console tech.

Harry said: "general rule is computer hardware doubles in speed and power every 18-24 months."
close, but not exactly.. the amount of transistors we can fit on a circuit doubles, but this does not mean that speed / power doubles every 18 months. ( en.wikipedia.org/... )
if it did.. well..
but pretty sure the Wii U is using a modified video card based on the radeon 4000 series, which is a few years old already.. but still very capable and more powerful than current console tech.



Its based on the R770 Ati chip which is responsible for the HD4850/HD4870. Which is still significantly faster than anything the current HD console have in them and more than enough to run every game for the next 3-4 years in 1080p, with all the little graphical nicenesses that come with advanced shaders and lighting. All 3 next-gen consoles will finally run every game in 1080p native next-gen, rather than the paltry 22 Ps3 games out of 750 odd that run 1080p native. Good thing i invested in a 1080p LCD finally this year [MOG]

What really amazes me, is for example that the 7800GTX in the Ps3, could never run any game on a PC, in 720p, that the Ps3 can run. Its universally known that games optimized for older console hardware can push way way harder than that same hardware in a PC thanks to the limitations of Direct X.

So what happens when you take hardware that can easily right now, in a PC, run every game on PC in 1080p and smoothly? Thinking about the prospect of a that GPU in the WiiU, and the capacity of that hardware to be pushed way way harder in a console than in a PC, means the WiiU will more than comfortably be able to handle any game, within the next 3-4 years, in 1080p, with high texture resolutions, polygon counts, advanced shaders and lighting, and look comparable to a high-end PC running 1080p. Cannot wait for the next gen :)
Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the relevance of comparing WiiU specs with current gen consoles? The WiiU is eventually going to be competing with next gen Sony and Microsoft consoles, not the current gen @_@

So the WiiU might outclass current gen consoles, but when the Gaystation4 (:P I troll) and Sexbox720 come out, how do we know the comparison won't be more akin to what the Wii currently is to the PS3 and 360?

Makra said: Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the relevance of comparing WiiU specs with current gen consoles? The WiiU is eventually going to be competing with next gen Sony and Microsoft consoles, not the current gen
So the WiiU might outclass current gen consoles, but when the Gaystation4 (:P I troll) and Sexbox720 come out, how do we know the comparison won't be more akin to what the Wii currently is to the PS3 and 360?



Yeah I keep thinking the same thing. It's not like "next gen" is defined by the graphical capabilities of the consoles, maybe more so by a few other factors:

It's release
It's market presence
It's market interest
Frequency of new releases

I think Wii showed that graphical prowess does not determine whether a game console can be considered "next gen". A few other things need to be considered.

A console does not need to travel through time for it to be able to compete.

Makra said: Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the relevance of comparing WiiU specs with current gen consoles? The WiiU is eventually going to be competing with next gen Sony and Microsoft consoles, not the current gen
So the WiiU might outclass current gen consoles, but when the Gaystation4 (:P I troll) and Sexbox720 come out, how do we know the comparison won't be more akin to what the Wii currently is to the PS3 and 360?



Because the difference between the Ps3/360 and Wii was monumental, the Wii was using ancient hardware at the time. But all 3 next-gen consoles are using current-hardware. The Nextbox is said to be using a HD6670 Ati GPU, which is 2 generations newer than the WiiU gpu, but also slower. Like i said before, the power of hardware hasnt advanced much in the last 2 years. So even if the impossible happens and the Ps3/360 are using the same tech as high-end PCs of the day, they're till only going to run everything in 1080p native, and smoothly, just like the WiiU.

Making console hardware takes time, which is why launched console are usually using 2-year old tech. By the time u pick a CPU/GPU, modify it, customize it, build architecture for it, tweak it, test it, build a dev kit for it, manufacture it and launch it, the hardware is 2 year old. So it seems reasonable to guess the Nextbox would use a 6000 series ATI equivalent, while the Ps4 possibly a 7000 series. The difference though between all these 4000,5000,6000,7000 series GPUs tho is paltry, its tiny incremental increases in power that add things like Direct X 11 and Eye Infinity, actual horsepower isnt significantly increased.

This will leave everything next-gen on an even playing field, running every game, 1080p native, all the fancy effects turned on, and looking as good as PC games for at least 3-4 years after the console launches. Its likely going to be the most graphically even console war ever.

My point is closer to what Beta was saying. Graphics arent going to matter next gen because they're going to be so close to each other. There will be barely any discernable difference between them, and 3rd party content will be spread across all 3 systems, meaning online features and exclusive content will win the day.
More rumours:


This is unconfirmed information, supposedly posted by a NOE rep on /v/. Take this with a grain of salt, but it is pretty reasonable.

-These are plans for games released after May 2012. All dates are TBA.

-Beat The Beat: Rhythm Paradise to be released June 8 2012. Will be budget priced.

-Diddy Kong Racing Sequel. Will be available within the Wii-U launch window.

-Yoshi's Island Sequel. Will also be available within the Wii-U launch window, to be released within a month of the Diddy Kong Racing sequel; Unknown if before or after. Developed by Goodfeel.

-Pikmin 3 to be a launch Wii-U game.

-Donkey Kong 64 3D. TBC 2012.

-Luigi's Mansion 2 will be renamed Luigi's Mansion Busters. Will be released Fall 2012.

-Paper Mario will be named Paper Mario & The Third Dimension. Fall 2012.

-Super Smash Bros. Wii-U(TBC) will be announced proper at E3, but is not planned for 2012 release.

-2D Mario is New Super Mario Bros. 3D. Fall 2012.

-Fire Emblem: Awakening still TBA 2012, but most likely Fall or Winter.

-Some eshop games may be bundled into retail cartridges and sold in compilations. One example is: Pushmo+Rolling Western+Mutant Mudds.

Diddy Kong Racing sequel would be amazing but it sounds more at home either as WiiWare or 3DS. A full blown WiiU game would be awesome. I'll have to look into these rumors.

Smash Bros seems very unlikely. The director only just finished Kid Icarus and only just tweeted within the last month hes looking forward to starting on smash bros.

Yoshis Island is one of my favourite games ever. Anything about a sequal makes me hard lol. Id have a nergasm just seeing it on virtual console. Donkey Kong 64 3D sounds great, lots of the titles u listed are for 3DS and it makes resisting one really tough. Im definitely checking these rumors later :D
i could see maybe a trailer for smash bros but nothing past that. i WISH those were some of the titles and releases but they strongly reside within the rumours section
I cant see a New Super Mario Bros 3D, Fire Emblem 3DS, Paper Mario 3rd Dimension, Luigis Mansion 2 and Donkey Kong 64 3D all come out in "fall 2012" which in aus means Spring. nintendo would be killing their own sales with too much competition, and probably also taking sales away from WiiU. Actually announcing these titles at E3 tho sounds terrific.
They announced Fire Emblem though? Maybe Fire Emblem but that's all.

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